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	<title>Comments on: Deliberate Practice in Software</title>
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	<description>No, not like the noodles</description>
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		<title>By: Raman Ohri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raman Ohri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty encouraging. Still, we would be remiss if we didn&#039;t at least give it a sanity check from time to time to make sure we were still living up to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty encouraging. Still, we would be remiss if we didn&#8217;t at least give it a sanity check from time to time to make sure we were still living up to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  There&#039;s a lot to digest there...thanks!

Regarding the Craftsmanship Manifesto, BJB had a talk about that a couple of weeks ago, and it was an interesting discussion.  I think there&#039;s plenty of analysis to be done, but what struck me was how many people around the office got tripped up trying to contrast it with the Agile Manifesto because (IMHO) the Craftsmanship Manifesto refinements of the Agile Manifesto are what we around here thought the Agile Manifesto said anyway.

We could probably go through all four points and play the same game, but, for example, when you read &quot;customer collaboration&quot;, did you not already have a picture of a productive partnership with your customer?  Yes, there&#039;s some wiggle room in the specifics of &quot;partnership&quot;, but did anyone really think the &quot;collaboration&quot; was supposed to be anything other than &quot;productive&quot;?

Maybe what I&#039;m saying is that I think we&#039;ve been on the craftsmanship road for a long time around here.  It&#039;s just part of who we are.  It&#039;s part of what we interview for.  It&#039;s part of what we indoctrinate new-hires with.  It&#039;s part of how we evaluate progress.

...and it&#039;s all a Very Good Thing(TM).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  There&#8217;s a lot to digest there&#8230;thanks!</p>
<p>Regarding the Craftsmanship Manifesto, BJB had a talk about that a couple of weeks ago, and it was an interesting discussion.  I think there&#8217;s plenty of analysis to be done, but what struck me was how many people around the office got tripped up trying to contrast it with the Agile Manifesto because (IMHO) the Craftsmanship Manifesto refinements of the Agile Manifesto are what we around here thought the Agile Manifesto said anyway.</p>
<p>We could probably go through all four points and play the same game, but, for example, when you read &#8220;customer collaboration&#8221;, did you not already have a picture of a productive partnership with your customer?  Yes, there&#8217;s some wiggle room in the specifics of &#8220;partnership&#8221;, but did anyone really think the &#8220;collaboration&#8221; was supposed to be anything other than &#8220;productive&#8221;?</p>
<p>Maybe what I&#8217;m saying is that I think we&#8217;ve been on the craftsmanship road for a long time around here.  It&#8217;s just part of who we are.  It&#8217;s part of what we interview for.  It&#8217;s part of what we indoctrinate new-hires with.  It&#8217;s part of how we evaluate progress.</p>
<p>&#8230;and it&#8217;s all a Very Good Thing(TM).</p>
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